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Mika Lepistö
Mika Lepistö
Oct 30, 2024, 10:52 AM
Forwarded from another channel:
Apparently (some) sites hit with HCU is not about content at all, according to Google.
So what is it? I'm guessing some kind of brand signals missing are part of it.
Forwarded thread from another channel:
Barry Schwartz
Barry Schwartz
Oct 30, 2024, 10:55 AM
not sure- it makes no sense - i mean, the update has the word “content” in the name. ????
Mika Lepistö
Mika Lepistö
Oct 30, 2024, 11:03 AM
Right. So I should qualify that this was only for some of the sites what actually do have helpful content and were hit - for them it wasn't their content apparently.
Barry Schwartz
Barry Schwartz
Oct 30, 2024, 11:03 AM
check out this new write up - jeez
I recently attended a funeral. It was called the Google Web Creator Conversation Event and took place on October 29, … Continue reading "I Attended Google’s Creator Conversation Event, And It Turned Into A Funeral"
Written by
Joshua Tyler
Est. reading time
7 minutes
GIANT FREAKIN ROBOT: I Attended Google's Creator Conversation Event, And It Turned Into A Funeral
Barry Schwartz
Barry Schwartz
Oct 30, 2024, 11:30 AM
maybe the algo is getting the content wrong
@lilyraynyc So, so many times they said this. Literally Danny hand picked us because we all create helpful and satisfying content. They just cannot get the algorithm to understand that. They are actively doing query debugging based on examples sent by our group.
Mika Lepistö
Mika Lepistö
Oct 30, 2024, 11:36 AM
Yes, that's my take on it. I'm guessing that any fixes they've tried have had consequences resurfacing undesired content so they are still in the "we don't know" phase.
Eric Hoover
Eric Hoover
Oct 30, 2024, 12:37 PM
that GFR article is rough: _“Undeterred, we then asked the only question that mattered: Why has Google shadowbanned our sites? Google’s Chief Search Scientist answered this question using a strategy based around gaslighting and said they hadn’t. Google doesn’t ever derank an entire site, only individual pages, he said. There is no site-wide classifier. He insisted it is only done at the page level._
_Many of the shadowbanned site owners attempted to politely push back and point out that the reason all 20 of us were there was specifically because our entire site was deranked from Google in a single night._
_He continued insisting this didn’t happen and then looked confused that anyone would disagree with him.”_
Jared McKiernan
Jared McKiernan
Oct 30, 2024, 2:27 PM
Personally, I tuned out immediately upon reading the word "shadowbanned".
Jared McKiernan
Jared McKiernan
Oct 30, 2024, 2:29 PM
Did the search scientist really say "There is no site-wide classifier."? It's hard to say, because I can't believe anyone who uses the word "shadowbanned" to discuss a ranking decline.
Eric Hoover
Eric Hoover
Oct 30, 2024, 2:30 PM
yeah that caught me offguard too, like who uses that term in this case?
Eric Hoover
Eric Hoover
Oct 30, 2024, 2:30 PM
but also GFR is very clickbaity haha
Eric Hoover
Eric Hoover
Oct 30, 2024, 2:31 PM
so the language they use is always reactionary
Jared McKiernan
Jared McKiernan
Oct 30, 2024, 2:32 PM
Also speaking of quality content, this Google ad lists their location as Charleston, NORTH Carolina
Celebrate your story on Google for Publishers.
Google for Publishers: Charleston Crafted
Eliza Morrison
Eliza Morrison
Oct 30, 2024, 5:07 PM
lol. Funny she’s in charleston, so am I! (South Carolina)

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