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Noah
Noah
Jan 19, 2025, 11:12 AM
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Mark Williams-Cook
Mark Williams-Cook
Nov 4, 2024, 4:01 PM
Does Google interact with html <button> to show hidden content?
Tom Gregan
Tom Gregan
Nov 4, 2024, 4:13 PM
No. It can queue URLs which are on data attributes (i.e. data-href) so they can sometimes find themselves being queued for crawling but that's more bug then feature.
I suspect the reasoning is buttons are form fields so it's not clear what happens when clicked - it could for example submit a form.
Mark Williams-Cook
Mark Williams-Cook
Nov 4, 2024, 4:19 PM
Thanks. This was my thought, but dev seemed very convinced ???? I also read about Google interacting with baskets to check shipping prices(?) recently if that wasn't a fever dream.
Tom Gregan
Tom Gregan
Nov 4, 2024, 4:30 PM
I'm as confident as you can be they do not click buttons.
I remember suggesting they will submit forms that indicate they are using the HTTP method GET but in doing so they can be sure it's unlikely to send data back and affect your DB.
Another way of looking at it is that even if they were to, it's unlikely to pass the internal linking value you'd be hoping for as it's unclear. It stands to reason that the recommendation is just simply we know not using buttons confers value and are not sure (but believe it doesn't) the button route.
Again, links in JSON and data-href styled attributes do get picked up quite frequently, so it may be that his experience here is from another behaviour elsewhere
ah
ah
Nov 4, 2024, 4:41 PM
If it’s a JS button I’d be reluctant but if it’s a URL should be fine.
John Mueller
John Mueller
Nov 5, 2024, 2:09 AM
The shopping checks are not normal crawls. Also, it's easy to test (the search part), come on Mark, never trust the internet.
Tory Gray
Tory Gray
Nov 5, 2024, 7:13 AM
Okay that’s helpful insight @John Mueller b/c you’re right @Mark Williams-Cook - that was not a fever dream re: checking add to cart to check pricing. I’ve been curious about other buttons since!
Samuel Lavoie
Samuel Lavoie
Nov 5, 2024, 11:14 AM
The shopping checks are explicitly made by the StoreBot crawler `Storebot-Google` right?
Samuel Lavoie
Samuel Lavoie
Nov 5, 2024, 12:56 PM
Thanks @John Mueller! That could make an interesting SOTR episode with the Shopping team ????
Mark Williams-Cook
Mark Williams-Cook
Nov 5, 2024, 4:16 PM
I didn't actually know about StoreBot crawler :shrug:
Will Critchlow
Will Critchlow
Nov 6, 2024, 12:09 PM
> I didn't actually know about StoreBot crawler :shrug:
Me either (which is embarrassing as a robots.txt aficionado). I knew about the add to cart checks but didn't know it was a different crawler.
Mark Williams-Cook
Mark Williams-Cook
Nov 7, 2024, 3:29 AM
The page @John Mueller linked to is actually really useful, simply because it gives a documented example from Google where they are saying structured data is given precedence over what is extracted by the crawler. No surprises at all for SEOs, but it is useful as reference point when trying to explain to clients the point about improving probability their result is good.

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